Friday 25 December 2015

CONCERT REVIEW / METAL HISTORY: Soreang, West Java, 1 April 2012 (show cancelled by police)

Adam (Humiliation vocalist) and John Yoedi during the festival which was cancelled by the police @ Soreang, 1 April 2012. Humiliation played their set and the police closed the show just as Outright was ready to start performing.
Only a few minutes later we all watched in amazement as young fans in OUTRIGHT tee-shirts swarmed out of the side entrance all with very sad looks on their faces. The word passed around at lightning speed that the local police had cancelled the rest of the festival. A few policemen could be seen here and there within the compound and a macho police voice sounded over a megaphone. We congregated under the side entrance porch for a long time as people did not want to disperse quickly.

As we climbed uphill and the rain grew harder and harder, Bobby Rock (Bleeding Corpse vocalist) had a difficult time controlling the van amidst the traffic. He used a dry cloth to wipe the inside of the windscreen on his side while I wiped the windscreen on the passenger’s side of the van with the same cloth. Bobby did very well to stay calm and to drive carefully and skillfully. We finally turned right into the venue’s car park at around 2.30pm or 3pm. The rain was still very heavy and Bobby parked the van close to the back entrance of the venue. Although many high-school aged metalheads ran past the front of the van towards the back entrance we were all older and wiser and we chose to stay in the van until the rain lessened. A POISON song was playing from Bobby’s homemade mp3 collection. I thought the song was “Every Rose has its Thorn” but I realized it was not this song because the familiar chorus never came! [Author’s note: The actual song was “Something to believe in”.]
After a fifteen minute wait, and with the rain still heavy, we [Bobby Rock, Popo Demons Damn, John Yoedi, and me, Kieran James] all made a quick dash to the back entrance of the venue. The porch was full of high-school age metalheads and punks queuing to enter the venue. We followed Bobby and Popo inside walking in single file. As they were able to call us “special guests” we did not need to pay an entry fee. We walked through the crowd to a back stairway which led to a dressing room on the second level about eight metres wide and three metres deep. This room had windows looking out on to the venue below. The room had doors on each side and on the far side just outside the room itself there were three chairs on the stairs’ landing looking out over the hall below. When we arrived a band was playing, then there was a break, and then another band played. There was a stage at the opposite end. The hall itself was around 25 to 30 metres long and around eight to ten metres wide. It was hot inside with no fans or air-conditioning. The crowd was around 200 to 400 people, mostly of high-school age. Punks made up nearly 20% of the crowd with metalheads making up the other 80%. The punks were there to see Bandung hardcore band OUTRIGHT and Bandung skate-punk band TCUKIMAY at this mixed-genre festival.
Adam's mother, Adam, Kieran James
John and I took seats on the stairs’ landing overlooking the hall while Popo, Bobby, and Dimas disappeared in order to prepare for the DEMONS DAMN performance. Adam [the HUMILIATION vocalist], a cheerful, young, handsome guy in white tee-shirt, came to greet us. He has thick, wavy but short hair and I mistook him for Deank [the bassist for DESPAIR]. Adam was very happy that Busuk Webzine had sponsored his band for its festival appearance. I felt much rewarded to see Adam and his mother’s happiness and their warmth towards John and me. I thought that sponsoring a young band’s show was an excellent way to build up and encourage death-metal musicians in Indonesia and contribute to the building of the scene there. As it turned out, the local police cancelled the festival before HUMILIATION got to play its set. For a time Adam was very angry and disappointed that HUMILIATION could not play its set especially because John and I had travelled a long way for the festival. However, we do not at all regret sponsoring HUMILIATION. As I posted on Busuk Webzine, Adam is a young guy and he will be able to perform with his band in many shows in the future.
John and I decided to go downstairs and mix and interact with the young metalheads in the crowd. There was a break in the performances and the high-school age death-metal fans at the back were busy taking group pictures of each other. They were really enjoying the social and community aspects of the festival and clearly they had waited a long time in eager expectation for this festival to take place. We had advertised the festival as a News posting on Busuk Webzine several weeks before it took place and the News posting at one point entered the Top-10 most viewed pages’ list. We should point out that HUMILIATION is a popular young group with our interview with the band for a long time remaining in the bottom half of the Top-10 most viewed pages’ list on Busuk Webzine. [Author’s note: Although it comes from Soreang, the band is associated with the Bandung Death Metal Syndicate (BDMS) community group and it released its debut album Savor of Human Destruction in January 2013 with Iwan’s Extreme Souls Production (ESP) record label.] One of the reasons we chose to sponsor HUMILIATION for the festival was the number of page-views gained by the band’s interview on Busuk Webzine.
Downstairs John asked a high-school metal-chick to take a picture with some of the high-school fans. One of these pictures appears on Busuk Webzine. The crowd is aged 12 to 16 and most fans wear tee-shirts of respected Bandung death-metal bands UNDERGOD and JASAD. The choice of tee-shirts shows the desire to support and respect the death-metal scene from the nearest major city Bandung. Slowly the barrier between us and the high-school crowd broke down and more and more people wanted pictures taken with me and John. We gave the metal-chick our Busuk Webzine URL address and we hope that the website can also become known among the high-school death-metal crowd of Bandung and West Java. It is unusual to see a Westerner at an underground death-metal festival out in the countryside areas. I think the crowd was pleased with my presence because my presence reminded them that as metalheads they are part of a dynamic global underground-music scene which has touched every corner and country of the world.   
We were very hot and sweaty by this time so we went outside. The rain had nearly stopped and outside the countryside air was very crisp and refreshing. The venue compound was around 40 metres by 40 metres and it sloped gently downwards to the roadside and we could look across to the mist-covered mountains in the distance. People grouped together in their twos, fours, and sixes and many young metalheads sat down along a curb alongside the far side wall of the compound. Apart from the senior Bandung contingent of travelling metalheads and friends, most of the locals were of high-school age.  The punk-rockers tended to congregate together but there was an overall atmosphere of goodwill and friendship at this mixed-genres festival. John and Glenn of BLOODGUSH began talking; Bobby, Popo, and Dimas were there, and I chatted about punk rock with band-members of TCUKIMAY. Glenn was wearing his new long-sleeved BLOODGUSH tee-shirt with the red logo font and magnificent power-metal style artwork. Glenn is an interesting character – like Bobby he is a brutal vocalist but a gentle character offstage. He has a shy smile and a soft yet deep speaking voice which is a little difficult to hear at times. I also had a picture taken with another legendary Bandung death-metal vocalist, Amenk of DISINFECTED, famous for his duck-walk and jug-of-beer-sharing onstage. Through Popo’s interpretation, I told Amenk that I enjoyed his guest vocals on the track on BLEEDING CORPSE’s debut album The Resurrection of Murder. Amenk’s death-metal denim vest doubles up as an actual motorcycle jacket and he is one of those old-school hard-nuts of the Ujung Berung [East Bandung] death-metal scene who has devoted himself to death-metal with complete integrity for as long as anyone can remember. I talked with Man of JASAD’s brother Iwan of the famous ESP record label. He told us of his plans for a split DISINFECTED / MOTORDEATH album for 2012. [Author’s note: His plan was for the HUMILIATION full-length debut album to be released around April to June 2012 but its eventual release was delayed for six to eight months.] He also announced that a full-length debut album from BLOODGUSH was also to be released by ESP in 2012.
John Yoedi and Glenn Bloodgush
During this time I also had my picture taken with a group of young punk-rockers. My friend Lord Butche, vocalist of punk-rock band THE CRUEL, was not at the festival and the JASAD guys were yet to arrive at this point. The headlining bands were scheduled to be JASAD and DISINFECTED. I enjoyed the fantastic atmosphere of camaraderie and mutual support as everyone exchanged the latest death-metal news and gossip from Bandung and beyond. Of course Daniel [guitarist of TURBIDITY and BLEEDING CORPSE] was among the senior Bandung travelling contingent and he was as usual enjoying this kind of atmosphere.
The festival was due to start again and people had mostly disappeared indoors again to see the popular Bandung hardcore band OUTRIGHT [the “HATEBREED of Bandung”]. Some metalheads, including most of the senior Bandung contingent, had remained outside gossiping and networking in the cool mountain air. As expected, some traditional Indonesian “arak” wine was passed around and I became immediately drunk. Only a few minutes later we all watched in amazement as young fans in OUTRIGHT tee-shirts swarmed out of the side entrance all with very sad looks on their faces. The word passed around at lightning speed that the local police had cancelled the rest of the festival. A few policemen could be seen here and there within the compound and a macho police voice sounded over a megaphone. We congregated under the side entrance porch for a long time as people did not want to disperse quickly. Bobby and Popo joined John and me and some of the young crowd recognized Bobby as the vocalist of BLEEDING CORPSE and many more pictures were taken.
Bobby Rock and Kieran James
I think Bobby wanted to at least give the young fans some pictures from the festival given that it was going to be a disappointing day overall for them. Bobby is a humble giant [183 cm. tall] and he never tries to attract attention to himself at a death-metal show. He happily merges into and mingles with the crowd in his capacity as a fan. He may have the rock-star look and swagger when walking down a Bandung street but at a show he merges into the crowd and does not want or clamor for any attention from the teenage fans. He is a wonderful ambassador for Ujung Berung and Bandung death-metal with his calm nature, humble manner, cheerful attitude, and generosity of spirit. John and I have benefitted from the kindness and helpfulness of Bobby and Popo and this couple is certainly wonderful company. They have a great sense of humor and they exude natural warmth which is always a surprise to outsiders. John has told me that he expected Bobby to be arrogant because of his status in the death-metal world and his brutal onstage persona but he found this not to be the case at all.
I went back inside the hall where everyone was busy packing up gear and exiting now the show had been cancelled. I met Adam and he expressed his disappointment that HUMILIATION would not be able to play. He apologized to me although there was no need to do so because the police’s cancellation of the festival was obviously not an event within his control. I tried to comfort and encourage Adam by telling him that we will see him perform again at another show later. John had told me that Adam’s mother was there to watch her son play. I asked Adam that we could meet his mother. She was seated in a parked van at the rear of the compound near the back entrance of the hall. Although it was now raining she came out of the van for a picture with Adam and me. She is a policewoman and wearing the uniform but she did not have the power to stop the police from cancelling the show. She was very proud of Adam playing for HUMILIATION and receiving the sponsorship from Busuk Webzine. She was distressed by the cancellation of the show and earlier she had been crying. I think our sponsorship of HUMILIATION’s gig was a highlight in the short life to date of Busuk Webzine.
Kieran James and Amenk Disinfected
Most of the metalheads had quietly dispersed by this time. Even the punks left quietly without a fight and without any harsh words. In the climate of modern Indonesia (which is really still a police-state but just with outward democratic form) the police will always have the last word and it makes as much sense opposing the police as it does hitting your head against a brick wall. The police all entered the back entrance and came out a few minutes later. There must have been around 20 or 30 of them. The senior Bandung metalhead contingent was dishing out and eating noodles on the back porch as this was happening. They adopted a look of nonchalance as if the festival was already naturally winding down and they were making preparations to go. The 20 or 30 policemen stood as a group in front of their van which was parked in one of the back corners of the compound where they could watch both the side entrance and the back entrance. All the police were male and most were in their 20s, 30s, and 40s. They stood in stiff fashion, almost like death-metal fans posing for a picture, with significant empty personal space between them. All the policemen had very serious facial expressions which to me suggested guilty consciences since they had no valid reason to cancel the festival. Usually police walking around and guiding traffic in Indonesia look cheerful, chat with the civilians, and try to build rapport. Here we saw the opposite situation with very stern faces. The police had a somewhat arrogant and idiotic appearance as if the younger and junior ones among them did not really agree with what they were being asked to do.
Kieran James with the punk rockers
The metalheads behaved very well, departed very slowly and casually, and avoided eye contact with the police. They left slowly so as to “save face” and self-respect by keeping up the appearance that they were leaving voluntarily rather than being forced out (much like Western CEOs who “pretend” to resign out of their own choice when actually they do not have a choice). The police allowed them this dignity and no-one was manhandled by the police. I was disappointed because I had travelled 5,000 kilometres from Australia to watch an underground West Javanese death-metal festival and now the police were seizing this opportunity from right underneath my nose. There was no logical or valid reason to cancel the festival. The high-school crowd was well-behaved and just enjoying harmless fun. Later Man [the vocalist for JASAD] told me that the police were nervous because of the recent chaotic demonstrations about petrol prices in Jakarta. He also said that if he had been present at the venue he could possibly have negotiated with the police and then the final outcome might have been different. It is important to mention that this was not the city-police from Bandung but countryside police from this region three hours out from Bandung and countryside police can be expected to be more socially conservative and risk-averse.
The bands whose gigs were cancelled included: OUTRIGHT (hardcore), HUMILIATION (death-metal), DEMONS DAMN (death-metal), TCUKIMAY (street-punk), JASAD (death-metal), and DISINFECTED (death-metal). It was a very strong line-up of bands for a countryside festival and the local crowd missed the chance to see some excellent bands from a mix of genres. Bobby’s van, containing Popo, John, Dimas, me, and one or two others, was appropriately the last car to leave the compound, the police vans obviously being excluded from this calculation. People were angry in their hearts but they adopted the philosophical attitude that this was just part of life in modern Indonesia. People’s spirits slowly improved as we drove along the beautiful, hilly countryside roads. Mist hung over nearby mountains and light rain fell on the rice-fields and the orange-roofed houses of the kampongs [villages].
Man Jasad, John Yoedi, Kieran James @ hot-springs
We drove on further up into the mountains and then parked in the parking lot of the hot-spring swimming pools which are a popular tourist attraction in the Bandung region. This is a usual location for metalheads after shows in this region but this night we all ventured there a little earlier than planned. There are two huge swimming pools which combined are around 50 metres long and 20 metres wide. Around the pools there is paving and beyond that places to sit and talk under cover and many tents. Most of the senior Bandung death-metal contingent from the festival was there. Everyone wanted to relax and unwind after the distressing experience with the police. Although I had given the police some harsh stares they had all avoided my gaze. In my view, the police had been “grandstanding” – they wanted to be the stars of the afternoon rather than the headlining bands. Therefore, I ironically labeled the Busuk Webzine News Item about the festival as “West Javan Police” so this label appeared [at one time] alongside all the band names down the right-hand side of the website home-page.
Man of JASAD was there at the hot-springs, along with his brother Iwan [ESP], and he came over to chat with us. The big, broad-shouldered guy from the TCUKIMAY punk band pointed to the forest and the mist-shrouded mountains, around 200 metres higher than us and also around 200 metres distant, and said it looked like a classic black-metal scene (Norway van Java). Before the twilight disappeared totally I took a picture of the forest and the mountain and we have used it alongside black-metal band interviews on Busuk Webzine. During this time, Dimas and others took scary posed death-metal pictures of each other and John and I enjoyed relaxing chats with many of the metalheads. However, when originally writing this one week later on 8 April 2012, I could not remember who had been talking with whom. I do remember talking to people I did not usually get to talk to and people who knew me even though I might not know them. I do remember Daniel being there and the band members from TCUKIMAY. As is his style, Man walked around chatting to the various groups but he did not stay very long with each group. Man confirmed with me that the police had been nervous after the chaotic Jakarta demonstrations but, as usual, the cancellation ultimately happened because of money issues with the police pressing for more money. Most things in Indonesia, no matter who is involved, can be solved when more money changes hands. Western liberal-democrats might label this as police corruption and they would be correct. However, Indonesian history progresses according to its own dynamics and consistent with its own internal logic. Although I think the police were wrong to cancel the festival, I respect the fact that they used no physical force against anyone. However, they took harmless entertainment away from the high-school crowd and perhaps that crowd returned to their neighborhoods and graffitied on some walls, kicked some chickens, and bullied some younger kids! In a sense the police must accept some responsibility for any violent or anti-social actions conducted by the metalheads after the festival back in the kampongs because the festival should never have been cancelled.
Popo Demons Damn, Bobby Rock, John Yoedi
We said farewell to the other Bandung metalheads in the hot-springs car-park. I had been slightly worried that John or I would become detached from the group and Bobby would leave without us. It had been very cold at the hot-springs, perhaps 12 degrees Celsius, and John had been lent a hoodie. Being from the hot climate of Balikpapan in East Borneo he was now learning how cold the nights could be in the West Javanese Mountains and even, to a lesser extent, in the city of Bandung itself.
We drove down the mountains on the roads back to Bandung. The roads were filled with pedestrians and motorcycles enjoying the nighttime markets and Bobby consistently had to be very careful in his driving. While still outside Bandung a motorcycle clipped the left side of our van causing a minor accident. Everyone got out of the van and Bobby and Popo talked to the two motorcyclists, coming to certain agreements. John and I stood together under the front porch of a nearby house which looked abandoned apart from some faint light shining through the makeshift curtains. In Australia you would not want to stand on the front porch of a private house uninvited but the concepts of private and public space are less fixed and more fluid in Indonesia. We were still in the mountains and it was still cold although now perhaps it was closer to 16 degrees Celsius than to 12 degrees. John took the opportunity, as usual, to enjoy a cigarette. It appeared that the two young motorcycle guys had a good attitude and were apologetic. The “good attitude” test is always vital in Indonesia. The conversation between the motorcyclists and Bobby and Popo switched from animated to casual and friendly. Soon we were on our way again and we reached Bandung around two hours later.
This day, Sunday 1 April 2012, was Popo’s birthday. We celebrated her birthday at a roadside food stall in Bandung. At this stall, like in Singapore, all the food available is displayed and then you can all help yourself. We were tired and after the meal Bobby dropped John and me off at the hotel. The time then was around 11pm. Just before this we had driven through the historic red-light district in Bandung and we had invented new brutal band names such as PROSTITUTE CORPSE! I can’t recall whether it was this night or another night but Bobby has a homemade collection of 1980s songs which includes many hair-metal ballads and even pop hits. On one occasion we all joined together in singing the beautiful chorus of the 1980s pop hit “Ordinary World” by DURAN DURAN! It is true that there is an “ordinary world” out there we all have to find. The vocalist Bobby Rock from the brutal death-metal band BLEEDING CORPSE has his softer side and I’m sure that this softer side is very appealing to Popo. The death-metal life holds in balance the forces of violence and self-control, gentleness and strength. However, I don’t expect we will get a cover of “Ordinary World” by BLEEDING CORPSE or HYDRO any time soon (“obituary world” perhaps)! [by Kieran James aka Jack Frost. This review is also published in the book Struggle, Anger Hate in the Indonesian Underground by Jack Frost which you can buy from Sofyan Hadi of Death Vomit band.]
Popo's birthday party @ Common Room Network Foundation, April 2012. Left to Right: Bobby Rock, Popo Demons Damn, Butche (The Cruel), Man Jasad.

Tuesday 15 December 2015

CLASSIC INTERVIEW: Our first interview with DEMONS DAMN (Bandung Death Metal), 10/10/2011

The mighty DEMONS DAMN. Left to right: Jhon, Dimas Damn, Abaz (studio drummer), Ricky, Popo.
By Dr Kieran James (BUSUK WEBZINE)

Interview: 10 October 2011 at Jasad’s new rehearsal room, Ujung Berung, Bandung, 10 October 2011. Interview amended by Popo, 9 November 2011.  

DEMONS DAMN interview with: Popo (female vocals) and Jhon (bass).

Extra comments by: Ferly of Jasad and Bobby of Bleeding Corpse.

Kieran James, Popo Demons Damn, Bobby Rock @ Cicaheum
KJ: Hi, Popo. Thanks for agreeing to do this interview and thanks so much for all your help doing the interpretation job for the other band interviews here in Bandung. You helped me very much. My first question is when and how did you get involved in the death-metal scene?

Popo: Hi, and this is Jhon, my bass player. I started in metal when I was in junior high school, 13-years-old.

Jhon: First class in high school, 16-years-old.

Popo: I just listened to metal for the first time when I listened to Sepultura. I watched the video-clip on MTV for “Refuse/Resist”.

Jhon: Basically I first listened to Biohazard [USA].

Popo: When I was in junior high school I went to some gigs, concerts. Someone took me to some gigs, I just wanted to know [more]; [sometimes] I went by myself. I saw those [bands] on the stage, I didn’t know who is he or which band but I just saw and knew people in the same school; they introduced me, I hung out in the music shop. I asked them about the scene, I was 14-years-old.

KJ: How and when did you start out Demons Damn?

Popo: Before this band changed name to Demons Damn, the name was Demons. The first formation was changed. I knew the guitarist from the record studio. We always hung out and discussed [metal] and met with other friends in that studio. I asked him to join my band. When Dimas and Ricky joined the band I changed the music from speed-metal to death-metal. Abaz, who plays drums for Jasad now, he made the music very fast. He still [will] play drums on my [forthcoming] album. He can’t play with Demons Damn [live] because he is too busy with Jasad. He plays drums with Jasad.

KJ: When did you start with the death-growl vocals?

Popo: I started with growl vocals then when the music changed to death-metal, I learnt about more and more deep growls, I use guttural style. You can hear it on my demo tracks. The first song has different vocal from the last three songs. The first song I use growl with the clean articulation. People can hear me when I say ABC, like that. John was the last person to come into Demons Damn.

KJ: What are your goals for the band?

Popo: We have same goals as other bands: to still exist; to promote our band; to make people know about] our band; [and] to perform in other countries. For myself and Demons Damn we have different goals. For me I want people to know death-metal is not only for the boy or man; it can be played with the women inside. I learnt much about the metal, I’m not a follower. I have stayed in Ujung Berung for a long time. I played death-metal in 2008.

KJ: What is the response of the fans to a female vocalist in death-metal?

Popo: The first time they are shocked that a girl plays in a death-metal band. People don’t know about some bands with women because they can’t promote their bands. I’m very lucky because my friends from Ujung Berung helped me very much to promote my band. Ferly [guitarist for Jasad] asked me to feature in one Jasad show. I had two performances, in Bandung and Malang, just me and Jasad. Man [vocalist for Jasad] introduced me on stage. After I give the best performance what [else] can I do for death-metal? I showed them I don’t just follow the death-metal, they like the band.

KJ: Jhon, do you feel it is strange to be in a band with female vocalist?

Jhon: No, it’s not really strange for me. I think girl vocalist has a difference; woman is more disciplined than a man to [attend] meetings with the band etc.

Popo: Manage money... [laughs]

Jhon: Everything! It’s one challenge for me [to work] for female vocals.

KJ: Do you think it is harder to get the death-metal tough-guy image with the female vocalist?

Jhon [Popo interprets to give this answer]: I think it is the same, man or woman it’s the same thing. I think if with boy vocals it is the same [as normal] but with a woman vocal we can look tougher. If the band has a man vocalist it is the standard. The influences for men and women are the same, but, when the woman plays death-metal, it is more interesting, [and] it looks different.

Popo: Maybe it is the coolest!

Popo Demons Damn, Bobby Rock
KJ: Have you faced any problems being a female vocalist playing death-metal here?

Popo: For the bands there is no problem at all. The problem is just with the [general] community. The problem is with the police permission [for shows], as I said in the Bleeding Corpse interview [8 October 2011, see older posts on this site for my full interview with Bleeding Corpse]. Now women in the scene can be respected by the fans because the women can prove they can play death-metal, this is different from [in] the past.

[At this point Ferly of Jasad joins in the interview]

KJ: Do you see a role to teach young women?

Popo: If the young women ask me how to learn about the vocals, I try to help them.

Ferly: Puji [stage name is Popo] has a great vocal and, of course, great performance, she is the pioneer in here.

KJ: How is the progress for your album?

Popo: We must record the vocal; the rest of it is done. We have nine songs; we have influence from Vader [Poland], Kataklysm [Canada], Disgorge [USA], Suffocation [USA] and many killer bands.

KJ: Have you got the song titles yet?

Popo: We have the song titles but not the album title. I have one song planned with Bobby [Rock, vocalist of Bleeding Corpse]. I wrote all of the lyrics of the songs. The topics are revenge, hatred. I try to write like Suffocation lyrics.

KJ: I think Suffocation lyrics go for an overall feeling. If you read small parts of them they don’t seem to make sense.

Popo: The Suffocation lyrics are idiomatic, meaning you cannot translate [meaning give meaning to] the words one or one.

KJ: Waaah, I only speak English but I don’t think I know what the word “idiomatic” means!

Popo: I finished my thesis [on this topic] for Bachelor of English Literature, Pasundan University [Bandung], 2008. I wanted to discuss about Jasad and Forgotten [Indonesia] lyrics. However, my teacher suggested I write [about] popular band in Indonesia, pop band like Peterpan or other ... that made me disappointed because the band suggested [by] my teacher is a mellow band and, lucky me, I heard Linkin Park release new album Minutes to Midnight so I chose Linkin Park [rather] than local band even [though] they're very popular in here but I didn't like them.

KJ: What are some of your favourite authors?

Popo: I like Karl Marx, I like Malcolm X. I like to read about the women in the patriarchy in some religions. I like feminism. I want to learn about the women who fight the hard things, why females can do anything...

KJ: Like feminism?

Popo: Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Rock of Bleeding Corpse joined us now during the interview, Ferly has already left]

Bobby Rock, Popo, Butche, Man Jasad, April 2012
KJ: Bobby, how do you feel having death-metal vocalist as girlfriend?

Bobby: It is something like ... whether a singer or not it is the same thing. I don’t like her [because] she is onstage as a vocalist. I like her because of her attitude.

Popo: I knew Bobby before [KJ: the relationship is for two years so far]. I don’t care that he is the vocalist for Bleeding Corpse. I just know he’s kind, he doesn’t like to play with a girl, he can take care of me, it’s very important [KJ: now is Bobby’s turn to be shy and blush].

KJ: Popo, did you find it strange that Bobby is brutal metal vocalist onstage but offstage he is such a gentle guy?

Popo: I think Bobby onstage is funny but Bobby onstage is different from Bobby offstage, he dies not talk about music too much offstage but onstage he looks like a brutal guy!

KJ: Who can kill the dragon, haha, like in HammerFall songs?

Popo: Yes! I make a character for myself [too] onstage, Popo. Popo is the killer female who can punch you but Puji is a shy girl. When I go to some shows I must be the cooler female! There is one band, Cerebral Bore from Glasgow, Scotland; in 2010 they changed to female vocalist [KJ: new vocalist Simone “Som” Pluijmers]. The hard thing is to make people believe I can play death-metal.

KJ: Ok, we finish here. Thanks very much Popo, killer female, John, and Bobby. Best wishes for your new Demons Damn album. I look forward to hearing it.

Popo: Terimakasih.

NEW FEAR INDEX (HONG KONG) INTERVIEW: "You see more metal shirts in Kwun Tong district", 12/1/2016

FEAR INDEX band (Hong Kong Thrash Metal). Left to Right: Chester Lo (rhythm guitar / vocals), Mathew Tang (bass), Kieran James (Busuk Chronicles), and Douglas Li (lead guitar) @ Hong Kong, 12/1/2016. Drummer Lai Wing Hang could not make it that night.
My second interview with FEAR INDEX (Hong Kong Thrash Metal)
Date: 12 January 2016 @ Mong Kok, Hong Kong
By Kieran James aka Jack Frost
FEAR INDEX is: Chester Lo (vocals / rhythm guitar), Mathew Tang (bass), Douglas Li (lead guitar), and Lai Wing Hang (drums). Lai Wing Hang replaces the previous drummer Cyrus Wong.

Kieran James aka Jack Frost: Please tell us more about the recording process for your new EP Age of Wrath to be released on Greedy Sea Records?

Chester (vocalist / rhythm guitarist): We started…

Douglas (lead guitarist): Around 2014.

Chester: It was started on 14 March 2014 and first we recorded the guitar and bass at home. We recorded the vocals at Douglas’ house. For the drum part we were lucky to get sponsored by someone else to record at Live House in Hong Kong. We pretty much got all of the recording done in May.

Mathew (bassist): Yes, May 2014.

Chester: Then we started mixing and mastering all the stuff ourselves. We had some accidents in between. We were going through this in early 2015. We got stuck at the cover artwork. The illustrator is Douglas’ friend.

[All smile.]

Chester: We were lucky we got a recording deal. The record label Greedy Sea Records approached us in early 2015.

KJ: Is it a UK record label?

Mathew: No, it is a brand new China label from Beijing.

KJ: You must be very happy that they approached you?

Mathew: Yes, for sure.

Chester: Lucky draw.

KJ: Did the record label ask you to do some Chinese songs?

Mathew: No, they just said to do what we want.

Douglas: They said they support our style.

KJ: Did they want any change to the music?

Mathew: No, they wanted it as close as possible to the original sound. They just wanted to let us get it to the world.

Chester: The founder of the label has played some extreme stuff. We were quite surprised that an extreme-metal guy will get us a record deal. He says he listens to all sorts of things.

KJ: How many copies did they make?

Chester: I guess 1,000 copies and 50 cassettes. They were done at the same time.

KJ: When was the release date?

Douglas: September 2015.

Mathew: In Hong Kong.

Chester: It was a little earlier in China, the shipping takes time.

KJ: What is the response for the album?

Douglas: Some of the audience liked the cover art and the music, including people from England and Japan.

Mathew: The record label has the network to distribute in Australia, UK, and Japan.

KJ: Did metal fans from any other countries contact you?

Chester: In the past half-year we have had fans on the Facebook from different parts of the world.

KJ: Did you get any response from our first interview last year?

Chester: Yes, a boy or man from Russia is very keen on our music.

KJ: Did anyone contact you from Indonesia?

Chester: We saw a few likes from there.

KJ: What are the best and biggest shows you played last year?

Chester: A-Fest in Malaysia; this is a metal fest.

Mathew: They had local metal bands and also Singaporean and Indonesian.

KJ: What was the crowd size?

Chester: We didn’t count as it was quite dark [smiles].

Mathew: The hall was pretty big. It was in a very famous indoor sports stadium. The crowd was possibly around 500+.

KJ: Are you happy with the way the CD sounds?

Chester: Yes. We were experiencing a tight budget. We were testing how tight we could make the budget.

KJ: And you said it cost HK$10,000 [17,709,000IDR / US$1,284] in total?

Chester: That is for the gear but some of the gear we own already so we didn’t need to pay for that.

KJ: Can you hear any problems with the album?

Chester: It is not the best, we tried to do it with the minimum budget; we used the digital recording methods; we had to sacrifice some warm [analogue] sounds from the album.

KJ: It’s OK; I think it is a very good sound.

Chester: We listen to MP3 format now; technology has helped us a lot.

KJ: Have you got any songs left that were not recorded?

Chester: No.

Douglas Li (lead guitar), Chester Lo (g / v), Mathew Tang (b)
KJ: Have you been writing any new songs?

Chester: Yes. Over the last half-year I have drafted some ideas. Yesterday I got some more time to draft some songs.

KJ: Which parts come first in the writing process?

Chester: Guitar parts come first, then I work it around, add some vocals, lead guitar…

KJ: How about the guitar solos performed by Douglas?

Chester: I write a complete song and then I pass it to Douglas for the guitar solo.

KJ: Who writes the lyrics?

Mathew: Me and Chester.

Chester: Some are totally by me, some by him, and some we work together.

KJ: Do you call Age of Wrath an album or an EP?

Douglas: EP.

KJ: Are there any plans for the full album?

Chester: That would be a long battle, writing a full album, we are working on it.

KJ: Your lyrics are about interpersonal issues and struggle, did you consider to experiment?

Mathew: There may be something that happens on TV or in your life and you want to write it down. If everyone approves we can try it out.

KJ: Is it a conscious choice to write in English?

Chester: Yes, we want to reach as wide an audience as possible.

Mathew: The wider audience.

Chester: English is the international language.

KJ: Is there a guitar solo in every song?

Chester: Except for song #4 titled “Haters”.

Mathew: That song is a very fast song.

Chester: It’s not the fastest.

Mathew: It has a kind of SLAYER feel to it.

Chester: We have changed our drummer. He [Hang] has to work today so he can’t join us.

KJ: Why did you change the drummer?

Chester: After some time the members have different tastes…

Douglas: And opinions.

Chester: We all want to go in different musical directions so he [Cyrus Wong] left.

KJ: What about Douglas, he is into power-metal shredding and you are a thrash band?

Chester: He can shred whatever he likes as long as he can help up the speed [laughs].

KJ: How did you find the new drummer?

Chester: We met him at the rehearsal space. When we needed to find a new drummer literally we asked his help to find another drummer then he wanted to have a try himself.

Mathew: It just clicked [laughs]. He gets the feel of the songs and he knows what we want him to play on the drums.

Douglas: He is not really a metal drummer but he has a lot of performance experience; that’s really important.

Mathew: It’s been fun for the new drummer because he just signed up and he gets to play these big shows. Everyone is happy and he is happy of course. He played at the show in Malaysia.

KJ: That was your first show outside Greater China region of HK, China, plus Taiwan?

Mathew: Yes, in Malaysia.

KJ: What was the show you played in Taiwan?

Chester: It was called Freedom Festival.

KJ: Do you think your live show is improving?

Chester: We are happy with the new drummer. He learned the songs fast so we can play tighter and more solid than before.

Douglas: And he has really good music sense. He really fits our music.

Chester: He knows other instruments.

Douglas: He can play guitar.

Chester: This makes it a lot easier for us to communicate.

KJ: What bands are you listening to recently?

Chester: SLAYER comes up first in line, the latest album.

Mathew: You need to check it out, it’s really great.

Mathew: There is a new ANTHRAX single out, it’s a really good song; you can check it out on YouTube.

Mathew: “Illusion” is the latest song we wrote [track #2 on the CD].

KJ: Do you think this is the best song on the EP?

Mathew: It has speed and song structure; you can tell it is more matured. When we first heard it from Chester we were pleasantly surprised. It is very challenging for us to remember. When the chorus comes Douglas has a melodic lead guitar thing going on under the chorus. Everything is really gelled together.

KJ: Do you think that is the best guitar solo on the EP?

Douglas: I say “yes” as it is really hard and challenging.

KJ: Will you all still play this music when you are older than me, say 50-60-years-old?

Douglas: I hope we can.

KJ: Is it hard to explain this western metal music to family and friends?

Mathew: Family? I guess so. Friends? It takes some time, let it be.

Chester: I try to mention it to them but I say more if they are interested. If not then let it be.

[Douglas starts to sing the song “Let it be”!]

KJ: In 16 days in Hong Kong I have only seen two people wearing metal shirts, both in Mong Kok.

Chester: Most of the bands rent a place for rehearsal in the industrial area of Kwun Tong; you might see more metal shirts there.

Mathew: The CD will be on the shelves in the stores soon.

KJ: Which stores?

Chester: Tom Lee musical instrument store, Tsim Sha Tsui.

Mathew: And we are setting up the online store now.

KJ: Will there be an album launching?

Chester: I guess not; the scene is not so big here. However, some bands had an album launching.

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Douglas Li, Mathew Tang, and Chester Lo @ Mong Kok, Hong Kong, 12/1/2016
Mathew Tang, Douglas Li, and Chester Lo @ Mong Kok, Hong Kong, 12/1/2016
FEAR INDEX 2014 formation: Left to Right: Mathew Tang (bass), Chester Lo (rhythm guitar / vocals), Douglas Li (lead guitar), and Cyrus Wong (former drummer) @ Hong Kong, December 2014.
FEAR INDEX 2014 formation: Left to Right: Douglas Li (lead guitar), Cyrus Wong (former drummer), Chester Lo (rhythm guitar / vocals), Mathew Tang (bassist), December 2014.

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